@yeopas Thanks a whole load lots ....and here i was TRYing to make sense of all these subs already existing... that makes it a wonderful christmas gift!
I think for the BD release, I just had to sync it like -29350 to -29500 ms or so (I forget the exact number that I used). At least I can somewhat understand the dialogue this time...
I resynced the subs to MY own BDMV raw, don't know if it will fit other raws. I hope it's useful for at least some people https://mega.nz/#!AckE3ZiJ!b0Ox2Oq0olf8KFMrIuzTdT6d4QgRJW4OBciKUWq_fkc
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