The small loss of sharpness on Beatrice's encode can be seen here, and this encode *does* seem to be closer to the original JPBD frame when it comes to that sharpness, but... no comment on the contrast and color timing shift? Doesn't seem like a good trade to me.

woah weebs talking about color timing. good thing timing has to do with processing film and nothing to do with the digital world

This is a tonemapped and downscaled encode from the UHD BD, hence the different colors. [This comp in particular](https://slow.pics/c/MAbLLAw0) shows that the color grading in the SDR BD is... not the best and probably tonemapped from HDR anyways.

https://slow.pics/c/MAbLLAw0 (why is it green?) https://slow.pics/c/sdqQ2eQh (the high-bitrate scenes in the JPBD all look like this) https://slow.pics/c/A4nuptHz (the high-bitrate scenes in the JPBD all look like this, pt. 2) If I'm being frank, I don't think it's really a competition.

Not a competition, but changes in lighting/color can influence the mood of a scene. The "loss of sharpness" in Jensen's encode isn't necessarily that anyway, but the removal of the ringing he mentioned just perceptually making the JPBD look sharper. @govna: Using "color timing" in this way is perfectly valid. On home theater forums they do the same, even though they're comparing different digital releases made from a film developed 60 years ago. You should have seen the argument about the color of Halloween (1978) between the [DVD THX release](https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/Halloween-DVD/1383/) mastering and the [35th Anniversary BD](https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Halloween-Blu-ray/87591/).

> (why is it green?) It's not green, the color temperature is warmer. The SDR grade seems to be using a different white point, which is going to result in the grade looking too warm on our displays without correcting it. > The “loss of sharpness” in Jensen’s encode isn’t necessarily that anyway, but the removal of the ringing he mentioned just perceptually making the JPBD look sharper. No, Jensen's encode is blatantly blurred and full of detail loss.

home theater people are still wrong. grading and correction are what you should be saying.

I'm just a consumer, so technical encode battles are beyond me. But I would like to understand the thinking directions here with the color grading. The SDR BD colors are warm. But for this encode the colors are tone mapped from HDR DB to neutral temperature. @WitchyMary implied that the color grading of the SDR BD is probably unintentional bad work. Now, that is only assumption though, right? No one from the production team of the movie has come out with a statement that the SDR BD color grading is bad, right? So, shouldn't we presume until proven otherwise, that that is the color grading the anime is intended to be watched with? Isn't then tone mapping to different color grade as the official BD release going against the director's vision for this movie? I'm just trying to get perspectives and learn what I'm missing, I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything.