someone yell at xpearse or whoever will re-encode this and throw subs on it
this thing's massive and I'm not going to seed it forever, so don't bother asking for a reseed
reuploaded from AB
That is not far off. It was letterboxed on the DVD so it had a real resolution of roughly 380p. Here was one of my attempts https://i.imgur.com/PQA3ehx.jpg
from a friend:
after further examination I think I figured out how the show was made. I'm not an expert but I feel like that the case.
Look at this part - its a clearly digitally composited shot. Such clean of zoom out wouldn't be possible with normal way of shooting anime, the colors also more bright and the most telling part - there is no grain. But look at the very last closeup - the image becomes noticeably darker and there is visible grain.
https://streamable.com/tpo9cl
So I think this is what they did - they hand painted and shoot on film most of the show, then scanned it back then in 99 to combine it with digitally colored and composited images like in that cut, and then final combined version was transferred back on tape for broadcasting. Which means - the show is done both digitally and analogue, and to properly remaster it you need to find original films, rescan it in bigger resolution and recompose it back with digital parts, existed obv only in lover resolution so you have to upscale it, which would lead to pretty inconsistent imagery overall.
This is not the first time show combined digital and film images like that - GaoGaiGar and Bebop have a lot of CG shots, and for Bebop its really noticeable how CG space stations on low res. But for both these shows they actually rescanned OG film as far as I can tell.
For Betterman, well... show was never popular to begin with, so they either thought its too much work or the OG films were completely lost resulting in just upscale with DNR for BD. When the show was made noone considered how fast digital technology gonna develop and all problems that emerge from low res masters, that you cannot just really improve quality of it, unless the upscale tehnology became much better or you completely recompose digital show from scratch. But the only show that did that as far as I know was Gundam Seed/Destiny and the results are mixed.
@Mealstrom Nice analysis, but your friend should know that a large majority of shows from the mid 90s to the very early 00s were created this way. Lain's Blu-ray remaster is the holy grail in that they took it one step further beyond Bebop and recomposited its CG elements into HD along with a 35mm film rescan. Shows in that era that were done almost completely on cel and then scanned directly to film with little digital elements and preserved properly are examples of how good cels can look for a reason; they're definitely not the norm.
Disc sales are basically dead these days which means funding remaster efforts is highly risky and only TV networks or massive streaming services like Netflix/Amazon can realistically ask for them to be done. Wait too long to do a remaster and the film elements start degrading if not kept well; the lack of financial incentives for remasters basically means that no one's going to attempt to repair the deterioration when it does get remastered.
Yeah, digital recomposites are quite rare but it's not just Gundam Seed/Destiny. As far as mecha goes I believe both Gurren Lagaan and Mai-HIME got them as well.
At long last! Now i hope someone can seed this more, spped is awfully slow. If someone can encode this, remember this show is VFR, I prefer to wait for this to download instead of watching a crap encode using CFR as majority of encoders do.
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