Does Vodes have a better encode than ODD?

i’m assuming yes, vodes is dehardsubbed aod. idk about ODD, probably subsplease

>Video source is now: AoD+CR (For masking) no, both are AoD

@Marche yes https://slow.pics/c/2Dmn9ZAA

> https://slow.pics/c/2Dmn9ZAA I'd say no based on this comparison unless you like extra noise and some pretty bad ringing from the sharpening/line-darkening. Whatever was done to that line-art reminds me of Moozzi2's tampering. If Vodes is doing rescaling, he's clearly using the wrong kernel. With all that extra noise though, it's no wonder Vodes needed extra bloat in the bitrate department.

Too bad that I'm neither adding a lot of grain, nor rescaling/linedarkening. Maybe you should check the source first

I didn't say grain, I said noise. Surely as an encoder you'd know the difference. True, comparisons without source don't say a lot which is why I usually advocate for comparisons to also include them. If someone would like to be kind enough to supply such a comparison, I'd be willing to take a look at it and re-evaluate my statement. In any case comparing the two encodes, there is no visible loss between them at a quick glance. ODDs looks blurrier but that seems to mostly be a case of yours being extremely sharp as evidenced by the haloing around the line art I previously mentioned. If you truly aren't rescaling, or line-darkening, perhaps ODD applied some dehaloing to fix it in the source which resulted in the blurrier line-art. Which is where being able to compare to the actual source would be beneficial to determine such things. Anyhow personal preference but I'd certainly prefer the slightly blurrier lines in ODD over the haloing in yours. Noise isn't grain, and the slight denoising ODD apparently did has benefited in their ability to compress better without any visual loss evidenced in the comparison. I mean after all, many of your episode encodes ended up larger than the source you were even encoding from. So it is what it is.

https://slow.pics/c/E64tA4ce - with AoD this time Man i sure prefer a little overgrained (and yes this is grain, not noise) over having completely fucked lineart and at times very smudged grain patterns. Also, where's the ringing?

Thanks for the source comparison. Seems the haloing wasn't caused by you, it's in the source. It's not often you see encoders bloating their encodes larger than the sources they encoded from.

Ok but where's the ringing