Disc 2 not included (mostly untranslated bonus actor/producer stuff).
Serious question, what are people's thoughts on OPUS? Decided to use OPUS instead of AAC for movies due to better efficiency for surround sound. Not sure what you guys think, I personally think it's pretty neat other than the lack of support on many devices and some smart TVs.
On the side note does anyone have experience with `hevc-aq`? From my tests it produces better average VMAF but worse in other aspects. Bitrate boosting also isn't as aggressive as `aq-mode=3`.
This week really isn't my week. Hard drive failed, lost all 5TB of my ongoing works and files. Then my Seedbox died... Currently in the progress of migrating all my torrents. Thankfully all my old torrents still have 1 seed at the very least lol. Don't really have the energy nor motivation right now to redo all my lost work, so settle with this movie instead. Finally decided to watch it and really enjoyed it.
Seeding speed won't be your usual 20+ MB/s since I'm currently using a temporary seedbox. Sorry.
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Source from BDMV.
__Video Format:__
+ Main Movie: HEVC 10 bit *(crf=17, `preset=slow` w/ `bframes=12:limit-sao:psy-rd=2:psy-rdoq=5:aq-mode=3:aq-strength=0.9:frame-threads=1` override)*
__Audio:__
+ Main [JPN] *(2.0, OPUS `--bitrate 192 --vbr `)*
+ Main [JPN] *(5.1, OPUS `--bitrate 384 --vbr `)*
+ Soundtrack [JPN] *(2.0, OPUS `--bitrate 192 --vbr `)*
+ Soundtrack [JPN] *(5.1, OPUS `--bitrate 384 --vbr `)*
+ Commentary [JPN] *(2.0, OPUS `--bitrate 192 --vbr `)*
__Subtitle:__
+ English *(ASS, Kametsu)*
+ Japanese *(PGS, BDMV)*
Opus is really great in my opinion. I definitely prefer it over AAC. The only downside is that Opus is hard-capped to 48kHz, but as far as lossy codecs go, Opus is definitely the most transparent of them all.
@Shing Luckily 48kHz really isn't an issue since most content are mastered at 44.1 and 48. As for compressing "Hi-Res" stuff.... eh. I don't really believe in it in the first place. I can't even hear over 17kHz lol. Transparency is definitely one of the reason I switched over. I'm just worried about overall device support.
@radydragoon Not really. I only do encodes of: 1) Stuff I like, and 2) I couldn't find a satisfactory release.
@ApachePrime excuse the insistence but accepts my request, 1) The Garden of Words 2 (I Want to Eat Your Pancreas 3 ( Mirai.2018 4 (The Place Promised in Our Early Days 5( Trigun Movie (2010) many thanks
OPUS is the next Vorbis. I myself am not interested in it one bit.
>hevc-aq
I'd wait sometime for any new tweaks to it since it's still new. I think it's still under experimental https://x265.readthedocs.io/en/latest/releasenotes.html
@radydragoon It's unlikely to happen, but I'll do it if I ever watch the movies. I just skimmed a bit and some of them actually have decent releases, you should just grab those.
@noZA_ Vorbis was worse than AAC so there was no reason to adopt it. At least OPUS has something going for it. I think for now I'll stick to AAC for stereo and do OPUS for surround sound track due to better encoding algorithm. *Totally not because I'm too lazy to use qaac and want to use OPUS to save bitrate vs. FDK AAC.*
`hevc-aq` was broken since it came out last year, but apparently v3.1 improved it. I can't find any new tests since most people either settled on the safer `aq-mode=2 or 3`. Here are my test values and in v3.2.1 with 2-pass ABR 2500kbps:
| | VMAF | 10% Low | 1% Low | SSIM | PSNR |
|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------|---------|
| AQ 2 | 96.5780 | __91.6331__| 78.0256 | 0.9861 |__36.9103__|
| AQ 3 | 96.4634 | 91.5188 | 78.6449 | __0.9866__ | 36.8062 |
| HEVC-AQ | __96.6155__ | 91.4759 | __79.7739__ | 0.9859 | 36.7725 |
I should have done it at a lower bitrate to reveal flaws but haven't got the time yet. The results I got are so close might as well call them margin of error.
Bitrate allocation (AQ-motion hidden cause it's broken and almost identical to not enabled). `hevc-aq` seems to allocate bits to portions conventional aq doesn't.
That's not what I meant by OPUS is the next Vorbis. I'm talking about how people would used it, support from manufacturers, etc. Seems to be going that way tho its got a bit more support.
>Totally not because I’m too lazy to use qaac...
I don't believe you! You a qaac hater!
>hevc-aq
Are those with dark scenes, bright fades in and out, grain retention, or/and fast animated action scenes? Going low bit rate I don't care for myself since I stick with CRF15-17 only regardless unless a very grainy source. I'll stick with AQ 3 till folks can show some comparisons, that and I don't want anything to do with it till it's no longer under the experimental phase.
>That’s not what I meant by OPUS is the next Vorbis.
My bad. My point was OPUS at least has something going for it so hopefully adoption happens. Both Windows and Android fully support it even in .opus extension. Right now it's just waiting for Mac/iOS to support OPUS in conventional formats and not just proprietary CoreAudio format used for FaceTime / voice recording. And smart TVs. Freakin "smart" devices.
>I don’t believe you! You a qaac hater!
¯\\_(ツ)\_/¯
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My test encode was Rokudenashi ep3 BDMV. In hindsight I should have tested with NGNL Zero and Tensei Slime ep1 for more extreme dark/grainy scene.
The main concern for me is if it is superior to AQ 3 or is it just an improved AQ 2, because Anime really needs the dark scene bitrate bump.
>I don’t care for myself since I stick with CRF15-17
Low bitrates reveal flaws in the algorithm and is *mostly* applicable once you scale up. (Though some stuff like `aq-mode=3` help out low bitrates more.)
>CRF15-17
Watch me troll people with `crf=20` but with `aq-mode=3:qcomp=1.0` ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I also don't like that it cuts off at 20 kHz. For me if not for that I may or may of not been using it.
>Watch me troll people with crf=20 but with aq-mode=3:qcomp=1.0 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I doubt leechers would care what you used.
>I also don’t like that it cuts off at 20 kHz.
Well but humans can't hear above... \**stabbed to death by "audiophiles"* \*
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I actually don't mind it. 44.1/48kHz sampling rate can do up to 22/24kHz only anyways. Despite what Sony and their "Hi-Res" marketing team might tell you, lots of content aren't even mastered that well *cough* J-pop *cough* dynamic range *cough* microphone/sound bank limitations. People might be surprised that lots of audio audio gears starts rolling off very rapidly after 20kHz, some even as early as 16kHz (i.e. Etymotic). That's not even considering if Humans can actually hear... \**audiophiles stare*\* *cough* I mean human can totally "feel" it right? Yup. Totally can.
>le hevc meme
Waiting for le AV1 and SVT-AV1 memes.
I'm so gonna make a VP9 release on the next April fools'.
>Where did you say you live at again ApachePrime? There might be some interest as well as others in paying you a visit lol.
I live and ABX and objectivity land, where the Oil of the great Serpent and 8-core Pure Silver Oxygen-Free Balanced Cables™ cannot touch me.
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