Netflix a shit.
More details on site etc
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EDIT: there will not be a 1080p release because the show’s native res is 720p and the Netflix 1080p is just a shitty oversharp (b=0 c=1) upscale. Fullscreen this in your player and it will look much better than any unfiltered (or even filtered if the encoder’s worse than me, K3) 1080p release and probably have half the filesize. We know what we’re doing.
EDIT2: There’s a high chance this release won’t work with VLC because latest versions of VLC broken 4:4:4 chroma subsampling. MPV’s what was QCed against and no support will be given for any other player.
TL: Myaamori
TLC: kumo8
Edit: Lann
Timing: Alen
Typesetting: Myaamori (lol)
Encode: KoolKidsK
QC: QQwerty, KoolKidsK
Comments - 126
BoxDweller
thanks
Xeiros
Thanks a lot. Much appreciated.
dupreeh
Thanks!
LightArrowsEXE
pog
VON-Encodes
Will there be a 1080p?
NotDaniel
thanks ?
Marz666
Thanks!
skiddiks
hello, I am neither competent nor a translator but would like to apply for the translator position.
PA-Subs (uploader)
@VON-Encodes nope. It’s a terrible oversharp (b=0 c=1) bicubic upscale from 720p native res.
huovi
thanks i love u so much
fuee
Guess I’ll settle for 720 then and thanks for the release I’m hoping for 1080 since it’s just oversharp guess we can leave it as that
geena
thank you so much!!!
PA-Subs (uploader)
@fuee b=0 c=1 looks absolutely terrible to any competent encoder. Please don’t encode this at 1080p at least without taking care of the aliasing-like artifacts b=0 c=1 introduces, but even then, it’ll just be bloat. Fullscreen this in your player and it’ll look much better than the 1080p Netflix direct rip.
chaenhaliax
based
Scyrous
poggers in the chat
SKY13
Thank you, seriously fuck netflix last time kakegurui and now this i hate there binge format.
mangamerchant
WE WUZ ANIME AND SHIT
culatra
waiting for 1080p release
andryzoun
much appreciated
SnowyNix
finna nut
MorriLeFay
Hi there! I’ve downloaded this a couple of times, and whenever I try to play it, all I get is some flickering like VLC trying to resize itself over and over. I can hear the audio, but the video is just the black screen with the VLC logo and the flickering. I don’t have any other problems with any other anime, so I am just wondering if anyone has a tip on what might be happening and how I might resolve it. And yes, I am using the latest release of VLC.
eXmendiC
Are some people just dumb and can’t understand why a 1080p is useless here or are they just too lazy reading a few comments above?
Not sure
herkz
lol
LightArrowsEXE
@MorriLeFay use mpv. Gonna assume this encode is 444, which breaks with the latest VLC
eXmendiC
@MorriLeFay mpv is the recommended (and best) video player. There are websites that can help you set up mpv properly.
Kamiyan93
thx
ps: mpv sucks, just l2 madvr
SD4ever_HDNever
it was horrible waste of Bones talent hate these Netflix western atempt anime B begining was the only good thing everything else sucks.
Razeth
Waiting for 4K release.
kurisu
thanks!
ThunderDoggo
<3
naru
thanks
MorriLeFay
Thanks for all the actually helpful comments! I was able to get mpv set up. It’s a bit less user-friendly than VLC, but the file actually plays. I will still prolly use VLC for most things, but now that I have a good option for when it can’t I should be covered. Thank you!
not_dedsec
Thanks for saving anime!
rusty_mst
thank you so much!!!
TTxKano
OP/ED?
JackTrade
Just use SMPlayer https://www.smplayer.info/, customise it however you like it to look in your Options -> Preferences -> Interface, and then update MPV inside the file directory with Shinchiro’s https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpv-player-windows/files/. You just replace the MPV that SMPlayer came with, with Shinchiro’s, and then run updater.bat every so often as admin. You’re good to go after that point, if you don’t want to bother with filtering or scripting or anything. Don’t use VLC, it’s shit.
Supa
maybe if enough of us complain to netflix, they can start “simulcasting” again?
PA-Subs (uploader)
@TTxKano it’s already in English but the OP isn’t until next week.
kmlshblr
Thanks, much appreciated
aguywithaname
Thanks for the release.
Also MPC-HC still the best player.
maroon1
THank you very much
But can you also do the other netflix show Gunjou no Magmel ?! Because there no good subs for this one
ahmadreza2015
@PA-Subs
I dunno you’ll understand this or not but…
Haji damet jizzzzzz
ChronosLawliet123
For some reason i can´t see the video, it just shows me the intermittent logo of VLC an the audio… can someone help me?
GoodJobMedia
Use a player that isn’t VLC. It’s a bug with it.
PA-Subs (uploader)
@ChronosLawliet123 use mpv. VLC is garbage and frequently messes up fansub releases.
EDIT: Ninja’d by GJM :<
Lekgolo
Well, in my opinion mpv is garbage, it doesn’t even have a gui or a installer…
You can watch this with VLC, just go to Tools -> Preferences -> Video -> Output, and change it to “OpenGL video output for Windows”.
AXZ
lol
AikaGranzchesta
"Well, in my opinion mpv is garbage, it doesn’t even have a gui or a installer…"
lol
Spot the windows user that need help to install something.
Kamiyan93
TBH, it’s just some txt shit for nerds. And it has garbage scaler.
Just get madVR and call it a day.
Aizen
Thank you for your service.
PA-Subs (uploader)
ravu and nnedi3 aren’t garbage :<
It has a better and faster subtitle renderer too. Nothing lags with it, no matter how advanced the tsing or kfx is.
Dokkar
Cheers lads
Kamiyan93
Nah, not really. I never had any issues with XY. And I have like 40-50% GPU usage with madVR. Couldn’t go past 30% with MPV.
I did have issues with MPV tho. That shit has some weird issues with blur. I added some commands but still nothing. And audio playback is just so bad compared to MPC.
Srsly, fuck this nerdy bullshit.
LCE
singular anecdotal evidence
Kamiyan93
Blame your potato PC.
madVR is just better. Especially with 4k monitor.
PA-Subs (uploader)
Try playing our Houseki no Kuni OP kfx with mpc-hc. xyvs and xysub stalls out. Same with some ts GJM does iirc. If you haven’t had xyvs or xysub die on you, you haven’t played autistic enough ts or kfx.
EDIT: Ryzen 2700x with 32GB DDR4 RAM here btw
Cyborg_Icarus29
Thanks for the quality release.
Lekgolo
@AikaGranzchesta “Spot the windows user that need help to install something.”
It’s not about needing help but about convenience and time wasted.
EndTeir
How do you torrent this the file is only 28 kb for me
Kazeyuki
Sanks!
Kamiyan93
Boogiepop worked just fine with my GTX.
Their typesetting tends to suck hard tho.
Oh man. I’d almost prefer an an8 here.
LCE
With such a non-specific (and mostly meaningless outside of it being nVidia) answer I can only assume you mean one of these

Myaamori
Boogiepop is a joint with DDY and is for better or worse perhaps not a good reflection of GJM-only shows. Try GJM’s Kaguya or Bocchi instead. In fact we were having an issue just recently while working on Senryu Girl where a sign would slow xy down (combination of gradients, movement and fades) while libass would play it without any issues.
dnbdave
Nah clearly he means this.
GoodJobMedia
GJM TS is probably some of the best you’ll find because our TSers push boundaries.
Boogiepop hasn’t been worked on by a GJM typesetter for the majority of the series, so I would not use that as a reference point for our work.
DDY’s work on it is for the most part very good, but it’s not done by one of ours. Picking out one sign in over 100 and making a blanket statement, because you didn’t like its implementation, is pretty unfair to begna and his work, Kamiyan.
Kamiyan93
Except it has nothing to do with said “implementation”.
Modern typesetting tends to be unreadable af. And the same same goes for original JP signs (lol).
PS:

GoodJobMedia
Calling it bait doesn’t give you a pass for insulting his work. Contrary to popular internet belief, you can’t say dumb shit and put a Kappa after it to make it okay.
eXmendiC
>And it has garbage scaler.
You mean the advantage of being open-source and people can create their own scalers for it?
Btw, some of them are better than the ones included in madVR.
>madVR is just better. Especially with 4k monitor.
I have a 4k monitor and it isn’t. Old libass versions had problems, newer versions work fine.
>It’s not about needing help but about convenience and time wasted.
It’s literally just copying two .conf files for a decent setup.
ap1234
awwww, I thought’d there be some subtitle slapfights in the comments but it’s just retards who don’t know how to watch anime
some1
They are using literally instagram in the show even though it takes place so far into the future that Mars has been terraformed and colonized. I think the production design in general is questionable.
LCE
@eXmendiC copy pasting requires pushing two whole buttons at once, that might be asking too much of Kamiyan, he’s not good with “nerdy bullshit”
Gatjoge
Thank you!
XRA9
I had no problems with this episode on MPC-HC with XY without madVR.
But in general, telling people to just blindly copy shit is a poor solution. You should want an easily accessible manual, which also means offline access.
a1anne
Wait wait wait wait wait wait.
You guys have this on Netflix ? Gunjou no Magmel too ???
I don’t have this in Canada :(
Man … That’s why i can’t find Gunjou on nyaa ??
Feel isolated …
Abunja
For me anything is fine as long as my potato can play it smoothly.
eXmendiC
@XRA9
Well, there is one. But then it’s “too much text” for some people.
Compared to MPC-HC with madVR there isn’t that much of a difference, because figuring out a decent setup also takes time.
The only real difference is not having a GUI. But I prefer just writing what I want instead of clicking and spending too much time figuring out where the option is.
MPC-HC with XY usually works, but I would recommend AssFilterMod with MPC-HC (iirc it’s libass based).
That should be comparable with plain mpv.
mpv has the advantage of being available on almost all plattforms. Also a reason why subgroups nowadays just check their releases with mpv or another video player that has libass.
the_swizzler
I watch everything through my Plex Server with a FireTV client. Seems fine to me.
eXmendiC
@the_swizzler
https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/comments/9zd7i1/plex_beta_introduces_mpv_as_video_player_allows/
the_swizzler
@eXmendiC, unless I’m misunderstanding, looks like that’s only for iOS/AppleTV. I’m probably still using Plex’s Exoplayer or whatever. Either way, I don’t notice any issues with playback or subtitle rendering (except interestingly enough audio had problems with a couple Precure series that I was watching but I was able to fix those issues).
ergzay
Why did you re-encode the already good 720p Raw from Netflix? You’re just reducing quality at this point.
Please don’t do that in the future. It’s unwanted.
AikaGranzchesta
^ maybe you should buy some glasses.
PA-Subs (uploader)
@ergzay We didn’t. We re-encoded the 1080p and filtered it. We basically just made a better 720p from it. The 720p is trash but the 1080p is too, just much less so from what I’ve seen. My encode has some things it did better and Netflix’s 1080p source (that we used to encode from) had some things it did better.
Period
If you want to use MPC-HC you can also use the XySubFilter binary in this pull request here:
https://github.com/Cyberbeing/xy-VSFilter/pull/16
Which uses libass to render instead of vsfilter. Pretty sure it was built with the latest libass commits.
herkz
nice meme
Anonymous_
Wait, fansub nowadays use mpv? I thought they use mpc with cccp codec pack?
aHalokid
XY is outdated for MPC now that assfiltermod exists. MPV is a good player but it does have limitations compared to madvr. That said, you need a really good GPU to make madvr worth using over MPV.
korbaNTR
oversharp bicubic :thonk:?
luglio
@eXmendiC
AssFilterMod is supposed to work but it took 10GB memory to load external sub files (and it ended up working) which shocked me.
herkz
yet xysubfilter is actively being developed while assfiltermod has a version of libass from 2017
geena
IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH VLC AND FLICKERING:
Go to Tools --> Settings --> Video and change Output to Open GL (on default it’s set to Automatic).
nicky_008
it’s fine but your sub is gonnabe rekt so hard, especially with many modern typesettings
unless you just want to watch the motion picture only
gsk_
I just came to increase the number of comments, don’t mind me!
belle_desu
came here to say THANK YOU! Netflix sucks so I really appreciate you guys. awesome job!
noguza
Thank you!
Kamiyan93
I just did tho? begna stinx
Not quite. You’ll have some srs quality issues.
TBH, even modern encodes look meh w/o GPU support.
And DVD is absolutely unwatchable w/o madVR.
Welp, it apparently got decent scaler recently but it sucked for a long time.
Audio playback still sucks tho.
Anyway, only nerds use that shit.
gniloo
Thank you <3
LCE
I’m really glad these comments didn’t include any arguments
Sieg_Zeon
Thanks
theo1996
thx based and jappilled
josesl16
Thanks~
I’m on MPC-HC with K-Lite Pack and stuff seems great enough for me.
Nala_Alan
then just use something else ffs
Koizumi
Thanks to the fact that this had 100 comments, I downloaded mpv and learned how to use it a little bit. Took some messing about (and I’m still in the dark about a lot of it, really), but I got a lot of subs I used to have trouble with on MPC working with this. Thank you for subbing the episode by the way! Very fun anime.
If I could make a request for future episodes, can you also sub the English vocals done during the songs? It would be nice to have songs subbed, even if they’re in English.
PA-Subs (uploader)
@Koizumi our current stance is only transcribing the lyrics when they’re hardsubbed in JP because that means the studio thought the lyrics were important enough to 100% know what they’re saying. Our hearing’s just as good as any other native English speaker and it’d just be another thing to fix for batch if we get the transcription wrong when official lyrics come out or it’ll be a hot topic for debate if someone else hears something we didn’t (and we wouldn’t be fixing it until batch anyway). We’re internally debating whether or not to transcribe them all for batch once official lyrics are out, though.
Koizumi
That makes sense, and is understandable. I tend to use English subtitles even for movies/shows in English since auditory processing disorder makes it challenging to understand what anyone says if I’m not familiar with them (doesn’t help that the vocals in the ending are mixed oddly and made it even tougher than usual to pick up on, lmfao; at least the opening is better about that).
Thank you for explaining regardless! I’ll at least be hoping you guys do it for the batch.
grepthis2000
Just came here to say “It’s a fucking cartoon for fuck’s sake!”
There. I feel better now.
360 when?
jelliPop
“You wanna go?!”
This delved pretty deeply into creative writing territory. He very clearly did not say that or anything remotely similar to it. I’ll always prefer the subs to be what the characters are are actually saying. You’re clearly not writing the show for me, but my guess is that most people who would notice this and care about it would prefer accuracy over creative writing as well.
CheekyKoala
reee you didn’t use a generic canned translation, which I remember because it’s one of the few phrases of Japanese I know.
kumo8
I suggest you learn Japanese and read Japanese subtitles then, because what they’re actually saying is Japanese. Based on what you’ve written here, that appears to be the only way to satisfy your own standards.
Translation isn’t a process where you one-to-one map words-to-words. This is actually impossible because there exists no two languages where each word is used in the same way, every word has an exact equivalent, every grammatical construct conveys the same level of information as the other, and every phrase or combination of words means the same thing as the literal combination of equivalent words in the other language.
What translators actually have to do is map the feelings and emotions and intents and contextual elements conveyed through words in one language (and other cues from the work in question), to words in another language that convey the same feelings and emotions and intents and contextual elements. This is an inherently creative process because any two languages (particularly English and Japanese) are different to each other, so modifications are often required be made.
It’s funny that you chose this specific line to take problem with. It’s hardly the only line we had to be creative with. The reason you pointed out this line must be because it’s the only line that babby’s first Japanese understood.
GoodJobMedia
You’re wasting your breath, kumo. People like that are just gonna call you a burgersubber or some other meaningless term that actually means “good translator”.
SomaHeir
Thanks!
jelliPop
GJM, you’re the biggest ball of cancer in fansubbing. I’m not surprised that you’re defending creative writing in subs and attacking people who honestly want to watch the show that was originally written, since creative writing’s your bread and butter. The fact that you’re an utterly repulsive human being doesn’t exactly help matters. Hell, you wear your awfulness as a badge of honor. It’s a shame 4chan-style cancer took a foothold in the anime community ages ago and keeps producing abominations like you.
To kumo, your subs were mostly fine. You’re not GJM. Please don’t dive deep, deep into the sewer and become any more similar to them. You’re hopefully better than that. Judging from your response you’re likely the same sort of filth (hur dur, I know nothing about you except that you disliked one line I completely rewrote that made the person incorrectly sound like a violent asshole, but I’m going to accuse you of literally only knowing this one phrase because thinking people have depth is hard and I’m an arrogant, condescending, pretentious asshole), but maybe you’re not stuck in quite as deep. Maybe your response was a fluke and you aren’t quite as shitty as you appear.
To the various people who attacked me purely because I prefer subs to be what the show’s creators wrote instead of what some fansubber thought would be better, I think I can help. If you honestly prefer fanfic to the show’s actual writing, there are plenty of sites dedicated to exactly that sort of creative writing. You should check them out. I think you’ll be happy.
QQwerty
I wonder if people like you realise these groups have tons of overlapping staff who regularly communicate and work together on different things. Reading stuff like this is hilarious.
GoodJobMedia
Almost all of the staff involved in this show at PAS work at or have worked for GJM. I hope you’re enjoying some GJM subbing, jelliPop.
If it weren’t for us and our recruitment and training efforts, fansubbing would be dead. You’re welcome.
herkz
the show would be written in english instead of japanese if that was the case.
Minami
I would just like to take a moment to remind everyone that you have the ability to hide dumpster fires like this by default in your user settings.
motbob
lol
LCE
I’m amazed that somehow new arguments are popping up in here
GoodJobMedia
Life finds a way, LCE.
CoffeeFlux
minami why on earth would anyone want to do that
Lann094
You’re a lifesaver, Minami.
FuckIsrael
ありがとう、先生
Xonline
Somehow this got top 5 in most public torrent comment. Nice
Edit: I mostly use my phone to watch anime anyway (using mx player ofc) so the vlc bs doesn’t matter
Ahmad_o
Wut? English please…
nyo0
“won’t work with VLC because latest versions of VLC broken 4:4:4 chroma subsampling”
This is a bug in the renderer not the whole of VLC.
Go to Settings - Video and change the output to OpenGL or one of the others that works, I would use OpenGL for Windows as it’s accelerated and the other ‘OpenGL’ makes your cursor vanish under the image, or DirectX 9.
Direct3D11 - broken, black + flicker
Direct3D9 video output - fine
DirectX (DirectDraw) video output - broken, pink screen
Windows GDI video output- fine
OpenGL video output for Windows - fine
OpenGL video output - fine
Aizumii
what the fuck happened here
Ingenioussubs
Now this, was an interesting read. Idiocy is always prevalent, and will never end.